In honor of The Baseball Hall of Fame announcing their latest inductees in a little bit, the Blowhard will lay his “vote” out here.
I’ll rehash real quickly that I am not discriminating against the “steroid guys”, per usual. The era was the era, everyone was probably doing something, Major League Baseball ignored the issue, blah, blah, blah.
I’ll also reiterate that if I feel the same as I did about a player from last year (or previous years), I will probably just reference (ie: copy) what I wrote in that appropriate previous year. No need to reinvent the wheel here. Guessing this may apply to a number of players.
Oh, and somehow Jack Morris and Alan Trammell got in through the veteran’s vote recently. I can’t even talk about these atrocities. Ok, it’s not that bad. But neither belong in the Hall.
In any event, 33 names on the official ballot. I added one write-in of my own.
Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens-I’m not sure why we even need to keep talking about these guys. They may be two of the biggest dirtbags not only in the history of baseball, but also in the history of humankind, but they are also indisputably Hall of Famers. Their vote totals continue to rise and they will undoubtedly get in someday. But enough already. Put them in this year and we can be done with them. Thank you.
Manny Ramirez-You may have to include Manny with the two bozos above. Not exactly the best dude or best teammate or any of that. He is clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed. But he clearly could at least do one thing and do that one thing unbelievably well. Hit. Manny is also indisputably a Hall of Famer. He will also likely get in someday, but the 23.8% vote from last year is laughable. Since Manny actually failed a couple of drug tests, this is no question being held against him. And maybe it should be…but just temporarily I would hope.
Vladimir Guerrero-Changed my mind on this one from last year. I wrestled hard with this one in both years, since I think he is right on the edge. Hit for average, power and even stole some bases in his prime. Cannon for an arm, however inaccurate it could be sometimes. The end came quick though. I wouldn’t be bothered either way on Vladdy. Hopefully he just gets in this year in real life and I won’t have to hem and haw on him again next year.
Chipper Jones-Hit for power and average. Showed some speed early in his career. Switch-hitter. More career walks than strikeouts. Played on winning teams for the majority of his career. Postseason numbers are pretty good, and he had a lot of opportunity in the postseason of course. No Gold Gloves in his trophy case, but he managed to stay at third base the majority of his career. Former Most Valuable Player. I’m not sure I need to say more.
Pete Rose-Here’s my write-in again. King of all dirtbags. But a Hall of Fame baseball player. Simple as that.
Fantastic careers, but falling a smidge short:
Jim Thome-The numbers are gaudy, led by the 612 career homers. I expect that alone will punch his ticket to the Hall, if not today, then maybe next year. But he never finished higher than 4th in the MVP voting. Only a 5 time All-Star (although I will allow that he was at a tough 1B/DH position, where good candidates get left out yearly). Despite the 1,700 plus walks he earned, he did strike out over 2,500 times. And on those Cleveland Indian teams where he made his bones, I am not sure he was even close to being the most feared hitter in the lineup at any time. You could throw in the fact he DH’d a ton, but at least he had the numbers for that. Just doesn’t feel like a Hall of Famer to me.
Johan Santana-Admittedly, this one is a stretch. I don’t believe he will ever get in, as the career was just too short. In that short time he was pretty dominant, but also admittedly, not “Sandy Koufax dominant”. Shoulder and Achilles injuries eventually torpedoed his career, amid several comeback attempts. These are of course a factor in evaluating his candidacy. But I just don’t think his career should be overlooked, that’s all. In the five year stretch between 2004 and 2008, Johan won 2 Cy Young’s, finished third two other years and fifth the other. Threw a no-hitter. Won a pitching Triple Crown. Produced significant results during his career, but again, not enough. If he remains on the ballot next year, he may drop down a category on my list. But for now let’s keep him here.
Pretty damn good careers, but we can’t induct everyone:
Trevor Hoffman-5 votes short last year, so I’d be surprised if he didn’t get in today. What I wrote last year still applies today: Because of the 600 plus saves, people like to kind of add him in with Mariano Rivera a little bit. Rivera (career 82-60, 2.21, 1.000 WHIP, dominant postseasons) vs. Hoffman (career 61-75, 2.87, 1.058 WHIP, not much to see in the postseason, however, not dominant). I don’t see it. But the 600+ gets him in today anyway.
Curt Schilling-No change from last year’s comment: Not because of his mouth or politics or tweets or any of that stuff. But because there were too many career ups and downs for my liking. Despite any postseason heroics.
Edgar Martinez-No change from last year’s comment: Edgar gets a ton of support. But as a DH only for the bulk of his career, the numbers have to be extravagant for me to put him in. Like say…David Ortiz-like. And they aren’t quite that.
Mike Mussina-No change from last year’s comment: Good pitcher for a long time. He won 20 games in his final year. Funny thing is, if he stuck around for maybe 3 more years and won 30 more games, the 300 wins and 3,000 K’s (ended 187 shy) would have put him in automatically.
Fred McGriff-No change from last year’s comment: The Crime Dog was a solid player pretty much from beginning to end. But that does not make you a Hall of Famer.
Jeff Kent-No change from last year’s comment: His position of 2B helps him here. But he can probably thank the SF years of batting cleanup behind Bonds for keeping him on the ballot every year.
Larry Walker-No change from last year’s comment: Colorado effect. I don’t know why he keeps getting the support. Why no love for Vinny Castilla, Dante Bichette or Andres Galarraga?
Gary Sheffield-No change from last year’s comment: I really didn’t think too hard on this one. There’s usually a reason a great talent bounces around and plays on 8 teams. Didn’t we all see it coming when he came up with Milwaukee as a youngster, they asked him to play third base, he didn’t like it, and as a result fired balls into the stands on purpose?
Billy Wagner-No change from last year’s comment: I like Wagner better than Hoffman actually. But Hoffs pitched in almost 200 more games. If Wags stuck around for a couple more years, would he have gotten Hoffman-type support?
Sammy Sosa-No change from last year’s comment: I said I wasn’t going to discriminate against steroid users…or alleged steroid users. And I’m not. 609 homers is nice. But almost half of them (292) came in a 5 year stretch…of an 18 year career. His .878 career OPS doesn’t even compare to Thome or Vladdy. Nor do many of his other career totals.
Scott Rolen-Numbers were worse than I remembered and didn’t do a whole ton after age-31. Rookie of the Year award, 7 All-Star Games and 8 Gold Gloves I suppose gets one some love. The .158 average in 16 games (over 5 series) in the NLDS can’t possibly help though. The rest of the postseason numbers don’t stick out either. Nice player, no Hall though.
Andruw Jones-If Andruw retired after his age-29 season in 2006, he may have had a decent shot at the Hall. Based on both his offensive and defensive prowess. He didn’t, however, and sunk his chances with a pretty disastrous final 6 seasons. “Disastrous” may actually be being kind. Jones hit 92 homers in those 6 years, but did little else, but apparently stop doing ‘roids and get fat. And I think stop caring, but I don’t know if I can prove that. Anyway, no.
Johnny Damon-If Johnny stayed in New York after his age-35 season in 2009 and played 5 more years or so, we may be talking about him getting his 3,000 hit and thus pretty much automatically sending him to Cooperstown (see: Biggio, Craig). Instead, he quibbled about dough, played two mediocre seasons in Detroit and Tampa, then finished with a terrible half-season in Cleveland and fell short by 231 hits. Solid player for a long time, loved him as part of the “Idiots” that helped win the Sox the World Series in 2004. This really should be his only year on the ballot.
Omar Vizquel-Omar is going to get some serious love because “well, Ozzie Smith is in and Luis Aparicio is in and Vizquel’s numbers are comparable/better…” And sure, he deserves consideration. Absolutely a defensive whiz at shortstop, who got better offensively as his career progressed. He may even get in someday, perhaps by the same group who let in Morris and Trammell this year. But I’m not buying in. Here is another one though, that if he got to 3,000 hits, he may be in automatically. He fell 123 short. That he got even that close is due in part to the fact that he played until he was 75 years old. Ok, slight exaggeration there, but Omar is just another decent player that is not a Hall of Famer.
Are these guys seriously on a Hall of Fame ballot?:
Carlos Zambrano, Jamie Moyer, Chris Carpenter, Livan Hernandez, Orlando Hudson, Kevin Millwood, Kerry Wood, Carlos Lee, Aubrey Huff, Hideki Matsui, Jason Isringhausen, Brad Lidge-Zambrano may have been on track early in his career, but then fell apart mentally and physically and was done at 31 years old. Moyer only sniffed the neighborhood of 300 wins because he pitched for 60 years. Carpenter blossomed later in his career with the Cardinals, but couldn’t stay healthy. Lee’s numbers were better than I remembered, but for the era he played in, they fall woefully short still.
The rest? Livan had a 4.44 career ERA. Wood showed promise early and had a couple of great years over the course of his career, but Hall of Fame? We aren’t counting Matsui’s Japanese stats. Hudson, Millwood, Huff, Izzy and Lidge were largely mediocre players with occasional highs.
Well, I suppose it is an honor to be at least included on a Hall of Fame ballot…
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