Was the Price right?
Of course it was! We are of course talking about David Price…in case that was a mystery. Well, he did sign with the Red Sox about a week ago, so maybe it was…
Sure, he has underperformed in the playoffs, to put it nicely. He has a history of listening too closely to fans/media/outside noise…not a great thing when pitching in Boston. After Game 1 against Texas this past postseason, he claimed that he is nervous in his first postseason start of the year (fair enough), but also nervous during his “first spring training start” and “first bullpen”, etc. And then used some sort of duck analogy. Ok, a little weird. So maybe some of these things are a little concerning. Or a lot concerning.
But the Sox needed an ace…and thankfully they have moved on from the “5 aces” crap of last year. Price was the best out there. The Sox have the money. This move HAD to be made.
You may say giving a 7 year contract to a 3o year old pitcher is stupid. John Henry would have said that last year, but since he changes his mind every year, he didn’t care last week. You may also say well, Jon Lester was age 30 last offseason and Henry and the Sox wouldn’t give him 7 years. I would say the Sox didn’t really want to sign him at any price. I think Larry Lucchino’s original offer of 4 years, 70 million should have told you that right from the start. We’ve covered all that before though…
Let me also ask you this: Would you rather have David Price at 7/217 or Jon Lester at 6/145 (plus 25 more in a 7th year or a 10 mil buyout)? I don’t care how well Lester pitched in Boston, especially in the playoffs. I don’t care if Lester came through the Sox’ system. I don’t care if Jon Lester loves Boston. The answer is easy…and it’s Price. Price is a clear #1. Lester, as good as he was here, really is more of a #2. Take a look at his first year in the National League too. 11-12, 3.34, 207 K’s in 205 innings. Not horrible, pretty good actually. But not worth 25 laaaaaaaaaahge. Obviously there is a long way to go to judge both of these deals. But I’d take Price any day of the week and I think most of you would too.
If you are balking at the deal because of the 217 mil, well, have you seen the other contracts out there? Greinke: 6/206.5. Yikes! But it goes way beyond that. Johnny Cueto is still unsigned. But he wants 25 mil plus. These 3 were the “Big Three” of the free agent pitchers. Fine, give them a boatload of dough. Look deeper at the next “tier”. Jordan Zimmerman: 5/110. Jeff Samardzija: 5/90. Hisashi Iwakuma: 3/45. Mike Leake: Unsigned, but looking for at least 15 mil/per. Mike Leake?? If you ask me, John Lackey’s 2/32 is a steal when compared to the above contracts. But still 16 per for a 37-year-old pitcher.
Sure, the money on the next level is less and the years are less. But I’d still take Price’s contract over any of those. Dig a little deeper. Look at these: Marco Estrada (2/26); JA Happ (3/36); Brett Anderson (1/15.8). Rich Hill had 4 meaningless September starts for the Sox and got 6 mil from one of the cheapest teams out there in Oakland. Switch gears to relievers: Darren O’Day (4/31); Ryan Madson (3/22); Joakim Soria (3/25); Shawn Kelley (who?) (3/15); Tony Sipp (3/18). Throw in position players: Ben Zobrist (4/56); Chase Utley’s corpse (1/7); Colby Rasmus (1/15.8); Asdrubel Cabrera (2/18.5). Chris Iannetta, a 32-year-old backup catcher who hit .188 last year…4.25 mil for him.
Ok, so the last paragraph was likely unnecessary. But I like numbers, so deal with it. The point has been driven home though I think. The money is being spent out there. May as well spend it on the best. Especially when you still have guys like Clay Buchholz, Joe Kelly, Rick Porcello and Wade Mil…ummmmmm, nevermind on him…still in your rotation.
So I liked the Price signing, that’s pretty clear. Did I like the Wade Miley trade? Glad you asked! The answer is…I don’t know. But I think I do. Wade Miley is a nice #4 starter who you can seemingly lock into 30 plus starts and close to 200 innings. That is a positive for any staff. But he is still…Wade Miley. Who is to say Henry Owens, Brian Johnson, Steven Wright…or any other Joe Blow can’t step into the #4/#5 starter role and replace him decently enough? Plus, as much as I am not excited about John Farrell coming back as manager next year, when Miley pulled that stunt in the dugout with him after being shelled earlier last year, well, let’s just say I didn’t love that.
So Miley should be replaceable. Maybe his replacement will be Roenis Elias…who knows? Elias is a couple of years younger, so that is a positive…for whatever that’s worth. Losing Jonathan Aro? Meh. Carson Smith? Kind of makes you wonder why Seattle would give up a cheap guy under control for several more years. But trading a reliever for a durable starter? Maybe that’s why. I often would not trade starters for relievers. But again, Miley can be replaced by…anyone. And if Smith can help solidify the back-end of the bullpen…probably worth it. I can’t really get all that worked up about it.
I AM however all worked up about trading Garin Cecchini for a bag of used balls and a couple of beat up fungo bats. Ok, I am not. I did find it surprising that Cecchini was DFA’d over a guy like Bryce Brentz…but since absolutely no one but me cares, I’ll save those thoughts for myself.
So with the signing of Price and 4th outfielder Chris Young and the trades for Smith and Craig Kimbrel, Dave Dombrowski says he is essentially done. (Aside on Kimbrel: I usually don’t love trading for closers when they can be “found” (see: Uehara, Koji). Nor do I love giving up prospects for 60-70 innings a year…4 of them to boot. But I normally would trade prospects for proven players. And I am not sure I am worried about any of the 4 prospects becoming someone the Sox regret they gave away. Even Manuel Margot. The Sox need bullpen help. Sooooo…I came to terms with it).
Anyway, Dombrowski said something to the effect of that he “doesn’t like to lie as it sets a bad example…”. I hope he is stretching the truth then anyway. There is more work to be done. I’d still like to see a solid #2 starter. Is it Eduardo Rodriguez? Maybe. But I sure as hell hope it ISN’T Clay Buchholz. I’d love to see him dealt. It isn’t Rick Porcello…though his contract doesn’t look so bad anymore, no? Maybe Ben was somewhat right on one thing at least. Anyway, there is rotation depth yes, but I’d take another upper end starter. Bullpen? Good start with Kimbrel, Uehara, Smith and Tazawa. Maybe Elias. Maybe Joe Kelly? Matt Barnes? I guess. Robbie Ross Jr. is a decent 10-11 guy I suppose. I wouldn’t mind seeing another proven guy out there though.
Hanley Ramirez has to go as well. Easier said than done, I am well aware of that. But the outfield experiment did not work last year. Do we really think the first base experiment is going to work this year? Cancer in the clubhouse…all that. Just do whatever it takes to get him out of here. I think it happens. But it’s going to take some time…and the Sox eating a lot of dough. Maybe even until spring training when someone on another team gets hurt and a team panics. I don’t know how it will happen, but it needs to. I’d also investigate trading either of Jackie Bradley Jr. or Rusney Castillo. I’m not sold on either of those guys really. Maybe trade one of them while they still have some value. Although I can live with the 4 guys (Young and Mookie Betts the other 2 of course) in the outfield if I have to.
A couple more months until Spring Training…still time to make some decent tweaks to the roster…
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